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Posted On: 03/18/2014 at 07:16 AM

Hi Everyone,

I thought since we had a couple weeks of down time we could start putting together the back story for the group.  I'm assuming we need to come up with a launching point--something that draws everyone together, especially since there will be one or two dissidents from other factions. 

Any thoughts?

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Replied On: 03/18/2014 at 07:36 AM PDT

I am a dissident :D

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My Khajiit was born in Skyrim and raised with his nord brother (my partner's character), they both were killed and sent to Coldharbour, so technically he is not a dissident because he fights with his brother to keep his home safe :3

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Replied On: 03/18/2014 at 10:17 AM PDT

What is the concept you are looking into? A Morrowind house perhaps?  Also since this is a family friendly guild what about the darker elements of the Pact i.e slavery etc.  Are you going to avoid those?  

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Replied On: 03/18/2014 at 03:07 PM PDT

now I guess we need to figure out if our family house is of a specific race,  now I know the nords are the better match to our Celtics roots,  now I don't know to much about the lore of eso, but if our house was placed in a region where a lot of the races might have migrated to after the fall of the empire that could explain how our house is a mix of all the races 



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Replied On: 03/18/2014 at 05:00 PM PDT

Windhelm is very near Morrowind and I think would serve has an excellent homebase.  Argonians and others fleeing the slave trade in Morrowind might end up there.  Bretons, Altmer, and Redguards might end up there as dissidents or displaced refugees from the Breton/Redguard wars in Hammerfell.

Bretons trying to escape the infighting of the various High Rock kingdoms may also seek sanctuary in Windhelm.

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Replied On: 03/18/2014 at 09:21 PM PDT
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I really love Windhelm architecture! My Breton will be pleased to stay there ;)
As for my Character, I decided to have a Nightblade Breton from Riften. Born and raised there by his parents (Nordic Woman - Breton Father);
If you played Skyrim, you will remember Delvin Mallory and his family.. Kind of the story I have for my Character.



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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 08:44 AM PDT

Being a lore junkie when it comes to RP, I believe ESO takes place in the 2nd Era somewhere around the the 5th century.  I can't tell which but during one of the eruptions of Red Mountain (1st and 4th) there was a ghetto of Dark Elf refugees formed who's homes were destroyed.  The game Skyrim takes place in the 4th century. Either way, Windhelm appears to still be very segmented in terms of races even during Skyrim.

From what I am gathering, racism is an underlying them in Elder Scrolls. So a mixed house (unless it was an Imperial House) would be unusual.

I guess I still have to ask are we avoiding more of the darker elements of the game i.e. slavery, racism etc?

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 08:53 AM PDT

Ah!  I see now why the more experienced lore junkies are complaining.  So the Soul burst not referred to in any other game till ESO apparently!

 

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 08:53 AM PDT

good questions, not really sure where to go for this.  Lore in ESO is something I am still struggling to figure out, mostly because i never really got a full picture of it with the two eldar scroll games I played previously (Morrowind and Skryim).   Well lets say I dabbled in both, but wasn't able to stick it out in playing because I grew bored with the later, and the first one, my computer at the time barely ran it.

 

Anyways, ESO seems somewhere in the middle of lore, and I have been researching the lore a little myself.   I am torn to how to do my characters background stories myself, because I will have an Imperial Dragonknight, and now a Breton Templar.  I am thinking that both are actually half bloods, meaning they have a parent who is Nord, with the other parent being imperial and breton respectively.   I have already worked out my naming formats so neither will be related directly, although i might make them cousins through marriage, perhaps ones father is the brother of the other characters mother, hence why different last names.  

I do plan to make a dunmer sorceress at some point, but alas I am still not even close to background ideas for that character just a name so I can get it at launch.  

My problem is I don't have the time I would like to really dig into the lore right now to work out a backstory, because of classes and real life family commitments.  I will have to make some time, but for now, i am still dabbling with the lore when I can.  

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 09:09 AM PDT

@Syphon I have been utilizing Lateralus's links in the general discussion tab in terms of Lore. These youtube videos  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Od2lbw9N4&list=PL7pGJQV-jlzCPBUy9uAXQUXZ4UBaDLKS5 have been particularly helpful.  Also the wiki http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki, seems to be the most up to date in terms of including Elder Scrolls online lore.  Apparently there was dramzz regarding the way ESO changed some elements of existing lore.  I am of the mindset if a genre is based on a video game there needs to be flexibility regarding lore change.   I love their timeline too which can be found here - http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline.

 

I am no expert on the lore by any means but when I decide to RP a genre I tend really research it extensively.  Elder Scrolls is not a "nice" Universe by any means, LOL. It is a lot like Songs of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones it appears. There are no true good guys or bad guys and there is tons of shades of gray as well.

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 09:13 AM PDT

@Elizabeth.  I thought I responded to this earlier, but I don't see my post.  While Gaiscioch is a family-friendly guild, ESO has a mature rating.  I think staying away from the seedier issues of Tamriel is contrary to RP in general--your characters are in this world, and this world includes racism, slavery, thievery, murder, etc.--altering your RP to give it a "G" rating doesn't seem realistic.

In addition, kids who are old enough to participate in the game have already learned about things like slavery in school.

While I allow my children (12, 14) to play Skyrim, they will not be playing ESO.  My son (12) was horrified when he discovered he'd accidentally married the barbarian NPC in the Bannered Mare and wanted to know how to undo it.  So mine are still pretty innocent.

I just don't see how we can avoid the messiness of war etc., which is what actually brings us all together in game.



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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 10:39 AM PDT

Om another note, Windhelm did exist in the second era.  About 10 years (2E 572) before the Alliance war, the Akaviri captured Windhelm, but were later defeated on their way to Mournhold.  The queen and her daughter were both killed during this battled and Jorunn the Skald-King was later made High King.

I think you'd probably find a number of different races in Windhelm at the time having been swept from west to east by the Akaviri invasion.  This puts us in a good position for a base of operations that is not difficult for "outsiders" to make their way to.

The Soulburst occurs in 2E 579 and may actually be a good starting point.

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 10:44 AM PDT

@Ezme Awesome!!  Now when if you see me refer to "adult themes" I don't mean ERP either.  In other genres I tended to FTB those type of scenes anyway since that's not my motivation for being in role play.

In terms of theme, I love the idea of competing houses. How large of a group do you foresee joining us? 

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 10:49 AM PDT

@Ezme Yeah some of the lore is a bit piece meal and it looked like Windhelm would be around but I wasn't for sure.  Do you think the refugees as a whole would have formed "ghettos:? I don't mean that in the negative sense in as much as ghettos were more like enclaves of immigrants. 

What about like a council of sorts composed of each of the leaders of the enclaves of residents as the lead in to the story.  That way there would be the freedom for Dark Elves to form houses within their group, Bretons and so on.  Could generate some interesting IC conflict.

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 10:49 AM PDT

@Syphon.  I was thinking about whole issue of back story, and while I think it's important to have some kind of origins story in your head, it's not necessary to publish it all beforehand.

In RL, we build relationships and get to know each other and our "back stories" unfold. 

Don't stress the minutia, just have a general idea of where you're from and what brought you to the place we all meet.  With the soul prison, it's just as likely that you were caught up in some event and have lost your memory of anything before Coldharbour.

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 10:54 AM PDT

@Ezme...looks like you and I posted at the same time, LOL.

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 02:08 PM PDT

I've never actually RP'd before and I appreciate everyone's coincidence. I think initially it should bemore a clandestine meeting rather than being organized right away.  Or perhaps two groups coming together--a Nord/Agonian/Dunmer splinter group who thinks the EP should focus more on defeating Molag Bal hears of a ragtag group of "outsiders" that shared the same mission.

They hear about each other in Bleakrock or Stonfalls and set up a meeting.  Obviously, each group is suspicious of each other and have to overcome internal conflicts while working to defeat Molag Bal.

Oh yeah, what is ERP?

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Replied On: 03/19/2014 at 11:13 PM PDT
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as Elizabeth mentioned, Elder scrolls wiki is a really good source for lore. Also check out the Imperial Library.

Reading about the Interregnum on the wiki, it mentions that Morrowind was a relatively safe area. imho setting up a homebase somewhere in Morrowind or along it's borders might make it easier to develop a story for the group.  In any time of conflict it is normal for persons to flee toward areas of safety. No matter what race you are playing you should be able to come up with a back story to get you there without much trouble. - M.



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 12:27 AM PDT

 



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 12:32 AM PDT

Looks like there are going to be considerably more than just a few 'dissidents'.. heh.

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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 06:13 AM PDT

Great idea Elizabeth.  I was looking on the Tamriel Foundry maps (ESO map) and I think I found the perfect location.  

Bleakrock is in Morrowind essentially.  It looks as if that whole starting area becomes Blacklight in subsequent eras.  But here's the cool part, while we don't actually have access to Windhelm or Blacklight proper in ESO, we do have access to Riften, which is home to all sorts of below-the-radar folk.

Right now, in ESO, it's called The Rift, but based on the TF maps, there is an established town there.

Our story might begin with everyone getting their bearings in Bleakrock and figuring out what's going on.  The group could then actually coalesce in The Rift and set up a home base.

Plots could include creating a manifesto, seeking out anchors and other Molag Bal incursions, and participating in the story line and side quests to introduce the people of Tamriel to our cause and build our numbers.

Thoughts?



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 09:14 AM PDT

So you are thinking of the council concept? I think it would be the way to go personally and keep the lore of Elder Scrolls in tact.  Alliances were tenuous at best and the races didn't really like each other LOL.  I also prefer to keep it in Morrowind since the dark Elves were a lot more scandalous than the Nords! :P

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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 12:57 PM PDT

@Ezsme Oh I just now saw your question about ERP. It means Erotic Role Play.  I have no issues with it and never look down at anyone who does.  It's just not my focus in Role Play.  I tend to accept that it happened ICly by Fading to Black and integrate it as part of my character's history.

Now in Elder Scrolls there is a Prostitutes Guild. In other genres, brothels, taverns etc were great places for spying and finding out info ICly.  These women hear a lot of secrets :P



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 01:02 PM PDT

As I said before, I've never RP'd, so I'm just throwing ideas out there.  To me, a council seems rather formal, but maybe in this context you're referring to the general RP structure like military or monarchy, etc.

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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 01:18 PM PDT

I wrote my sorceror's background as a half-breton, half-dunmer slave, interestingly. i haven't really finished it, so maybe this discussion will give me some ideas. :)

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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 01:58 PM PDT

@Ezsme yes that exactly.  Originally I was thinking of the settlement idea in Wildhelm we were tossing around and a reason the different races would interact. These people do not like each other, so outside of trade and war they probably would not casually meet, LOL.  

For a war theme, I suggest using Game of Thrones as a point of reference:  A leader of one high house (dark elves particularly) contacting another high house or large militia/mercenary group to battle a common enemy.  For the time being, they put their racial differences aside to a certain extent.  Like wtih Game of thrones though, you could see potential inner group conflict (a la the men of the north and the Stark followers).  I am not advocating we have to fight constantly but keeping  things "interesting" .  The problem I see with Elder Scrolls online is there kind of watering down some of the more controversial elements.  

A ragtag group would work but I see that more with some well known house that splits off and gains followers - kind of like Beric Dondarrion and the Brotherhood without Banners.   (Sorry I spent a lot of time role playing in a Game of Thrones themed virtual world)

In terms of dissidents do you guys mean against the Imperials or the Dissident Priests of Morrowind?

As a side note, I prefer not us Game Mechanics to guide my character - her questing is separate from her story.   PVE wise she might be a bad ass Tanking templar, but IC she might be a bookish scribe or former prostitute who was getting to be too old to be a part of the guild,ha.  But that's just my preference and don't believe that should be dictated to anyone else or how they play their Char.  Yes...I have spent a lot time role playing the last four years or so LOL.

 



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 02:37 PM PDT

Isn't the whole Alliance war like the Game of Thrones concept?   We have avid slavers and their slaves putting aside their differences to fight a common enemy.

What makes sense to me is that we don't hash out the organization here, but rather let it grow organically once the group forms. I would think all we need at this point is a viable premise that brings us all together.

I'm not sure I can split myself in half and rp with one mind and quest with another.   I generally play in-character to a certain extent.



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Replied On: 03/20/2014 at 05:24 PM PDT
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@Elizabeth thank you so much for the link to the videos!! They are extremely well done and much, much better than just plain reading. The videos give such a precise explanation of the lore of all the races and considering I only touched with a brief play of Skyrim, it was really enlightening to the story of Elder Scrolls! Again, thank you!



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I'll roleplay and have done so for 20 years online in some form or another.  However, I want to remind you to keep to your credos in public and guild chat channels.  You can do whatever you want in whispers if the other person goes for it, same even for a party of any size.  I rather error on the side of G rated and I've had some awesome RP over the years that was actually the best when lewd, crude and swearing were benched entirely.  Then again I've also monitored RP chat rooms and had to make sure people followed TOS.  And as an elder of this family I rather here about cool RP done by our crew, not complaints about the choice of RP or the bashing of RP.  I've had to deal with all sorts of stuff, so go for fun but remember who you are representing out there in public and our credos.  Just because it is G rated doesn't mean it isn't fun. 

So I'm not telling you how Briseadh the Nord Templar is going to be.  Just know she isn't far off who I am.  ;)  A first encounter might start of like this:

Once there was a Nord templar who walked into a bar .........

Once there was a Nord templar who came upon a group doing .......

So I'll probably just show up and go from there.  ;)  If I can RP a grumpy, male ice dragon who manages to take on human form and no one believes I'm a female because of how he is played, I'll wing anything.  Hehe

 

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@Ezsme yes it's very similar to GoT and with announcement today of 90 day campaigns I wonder how long the love between the races will last lol.   I totally get your quests are a part of your character. In fact I would say over half the MMO rpers play their character like their game mechanics class.    I think it largely has to do that I came from RP environments outside of MMOs with more advanced character profiling systems for other players to reference.  

 

@Briseadh I appreciate you comments and completely understand your stressing the G Rating.    I look forward to meeting you at an in game event!

 

 

 

 



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I would like to clarify something regarding our GSCH credos in regards to RP.  While I get what you're saying Bris, and it's not like I'm going to ERP in the streets or anything, but if I decide to RP a character who isn't GSCH material... What about the whole OOC vs IC thing.  I happen to really enjoy my dark plotting schemes and character who are NOT GSCH material but with the way ESO is set up I have no choice but for all my characters to be automatically in GSCH.  I'd like some clarification at exactly what is being stated as the rule on this so I can decide if I need to stick to a seperate Tuatha guild rather than GSCH itself.  And I do apologize if I come off a bit harsh here, it's just a bit of a sore spot for me.

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Replied On: 03/23/2014 at 12:38 PM PDT

@Mystriss as a noobie to the guild I was concerned about speaking up.  I do like GSCH and love the many activities on can choose from for PVE and PVP.  Now in terms of RP, I am kind of in line with what you are saying in terms of wondering how much freedom we have as GSCH members to RP in a way that calls us.  LIke you, I am not even thinking about ERP as a focus in my RP - and do not see me taking part in this mode of rp anytime soon in a game such as ESO.  What I am referring to is more in terms of the mature elements of the game itself - slavery (largely just dark elves enslaving those that they view as "lesser beings" - Nords, Argonians and Khajitt), murder, racism etc that are a part of this game.   

I think if the guild decides to make themselves a part of a darker themed game than say Guild Wars, there should be some freedom given to it's members to RP these themes, perhaps even in a guild apart from GSCH without fear of repercussions.  I would be more than happy to have a completely separate RP toon that would not participate in ESO community activities.

I believe IC is very separate from OOC.  I would never force these themes on someone who isn't 100% on board with the lore nor judge anyone who chooses a more Kumbaya approach for their RP world.




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Replied On: 03/24/2014 at 03:56 PM PDT

I don't do a lot of RP, although over the last... er... 36 years the 'portfolio' has accumulated somewhat, but I may slip into the tavern/chat room/wherever now and again.  As my main will be a Khajit ex-slave with a serious downer on slavers (and, to be honest, probably not much respect or liking for many other people, at least initially), I hope that we will not entirely avoid the 'darker' side of RP topics.  As has been said by several previous posters, slavery & racism are an integral part of TES lore, and while we rightly abhor them in real life, one of the central ideas behind RP is to be able to explore thinking completely outside of the normal 'box'.  As such, those particular areas will, I expect, form some very interesting touch-points for RP between my character and other people...

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My issue is that my Wood Elf is a racist traitor to her Queen, and her tribe, plus she's taken the green pact as a Priestess of Y'ffre so she's also a cannibal.  None of which is in line with GSCH credos >.<

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Going wood elf as well, and I don't think we have to censure our rp so long as we don't bring such topics into raidcall or guild chat and still support our community and carry ourselves as a Gaiscioch ought.

*I do not rp in voice, strictly through chat. But if anyone feels comfortable doing so, even darker topics could safely be rpd in one of our marked over 18 channels. :) I would agree erp in not something done in public but in a private group channel.



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OH! not sure if this has been posted http://teso-rp.com/  excellent site with plenty or lore and stories.

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Replied On: 03/25/2014 at 10:06 AM PDT

Ooh a couple of wood elves!!  Was thinking of creating a RP char that's a wood elf or dark elf.  I am with Izzy too I don't rp in voice - it totally blows my immersion and I end up laughing at myself at how ridiculous I sound!

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I want to come up with a background story for my dark elf DK, but i'm drawing a blank. He's basically a fire and earth wizard. I think i used up all my RP ideas on other characters. LOL

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Bottom Line: Don't let fictionary drama, become real drama in our family.

Whether you are in character or not, you a representative of our family and everything you do is a direct reflection of our community. If your going to be rude, crude and lewd in your roleplay please do not be that way in guild chat or zone chat channels. I really don't want your "Story" compromising 13 years of work building our reputation.

Keep it to a group, whispers, or say chat pretty please.

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Replied On: 03/25/2014 at 12:48 PM PDT

Guild and Zone chat are 100% OOC in my opinion - always have been to me and always will be. In those areas, I am Elizabeth, not my IC character.  Elizabeth is not rude nor is she crude - she is actually very nice.  :)

I am not a fan of guilds who use guild chat, or in some realms guild like chat, to communicate IC information and tend to avoid those that do.  I have seen huge metagaming issues happen because of that.  

My personal stance is if it didn't happen in /say (or in some realms "local chat") - it never happened ICLy.  

To me "mature themes" does not equate that emotes need to be lewd or crude either.  I am more interested in well developed writing than saying things to shock those around me.

 



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I'm generally a /say RP'er, which is technically 'public' which was my question.  I have no intention of RP'ing in voice or GSCH's guild chat.  Though I doubt anything I would RP in public would harm anyone's reputation, even my evil plotting RP has been well received by the RP communities I've been part of.  Mystriss is usually one of those bad guys that's hard to hate :)

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Replied On: 03/26/2014 at 06:56 AM PDT

I was thinking of the whole RP thing and being able to keep our characters in tact without stepping on family mores.

I was thinking we might form an RP guild.  Everything in RP Guild chat would be IC, unless specifically stated otherwise.  On my ESO beta survey I mentioned that showing ESO IDs in guild chat was difficult for RP and aske if they would consider an RP-type "window" in chat or an option to display character names instead of IDs.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who has brought up the subject of RP and fine-tuning the mechanism.

I am completely down with what Fog is saying, and thinks we need to state from the get go that "anything that goes on the road, stays on the road."  That is, are RP characters do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the guild member or the guild.

I would love for us to be free to be hostile towards each other until friendships grow (between our characters) or a cool tolerance is reached.  Just like in RL, you can't absolutely love everyone.

As a Breton from The Reach, I'm really going to be torn between two worlds.  Not knowing any of the xenophobic, arrogant high elves personally, I feel no real affiliation to them as ancestors.  But I completely expect to be ostracized by my Nord "brethren" until we find a common ground.  Will I curse a wood elf under my breath for not having the same magika capability as even a Breton?  Maybe.  Will it take longer for me to warm up to an Argonian simply due to my unfamiliarity with them as a race and their mysterious society?  Probably.

These are what I categorize as "mature" themes.  You don't have to be mature to cuss like a sailor (again, no offense to sailors, my dad was in the Navy), or say, "...that's what she said." after everything remotely referencing.....who am I kidding, many folks throw this line out no matter what is said.  And you don't have to be mature to throw out explicit sexual references.  Judging from what I know of this family so far I'm sensing alot of nodding heads in agreement.

Subtle sexual innuendo, flirting, that kind of thing comes up among adults.  As does, sabotage, murder, generosity, empathy, and stealing the last sweert roll and blaming it on the Ninja Bosmer--or better yet, the Ninja Bosmer stealing the sweet roll and blaming the clumsy Nord.

I apologize for the long post, but you now have bragging rights for making it to the end.

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Doesn't sound like a bad idea, we always encourage our members to join other guilds as well if they want. The elders who rp will not have space to join however. ;)

 

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Replied On: 03/26/2014 at 07:54 AM PDT

We just have to be careful not to accidentally type "/guild1" instead of "/guild3" when trying to RP. :)

Also, there is currently no way to change the font color for the different guild chats. Hopefully that will be added soon, or by UI mod.

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I've been wondering about having a separate Gaiscioch RP guild as well. I think it makes sense.

 

Oh, and you can change the color of each guild chat under settings, BTW.

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I stand corrected.

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Replied On: 03/26/2014 at 09:43 AM PDT

I generally don't like using guild chat for IC info unless someone says something like "a scroll is sent out to all parties" or "this info would be publicly known" or a "public post is hung on the outside of the keep"  People might accidentally metagame info.  (I emphasize the world accidentally as I tend to give all the benefit of the doubt first).  Correct me if I am wrong but I would think most info was sent word of mouth, face to face, based on the technology of Tamiriel, anyhow. Because of this, I strongly encourage keeping rp in /say to help with immersion.

Think of it this way...if I am in Elswyr and you are in Morrowind how would you know what I am saying? Just my thoughts.

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Yeah, someone told me about it because I assumed it would be under the chat window settings and didn't see it. :)

 

As for the back story, the stories that Fog created for the 3 GSCH guilds would be a good start, maybe?



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I guess I like the 'being right there' aspect of /say, that said, however, I have been actively looking for an RP guild on the EP side, and I suppose one that's a bit less G rated.  I often elect to keep my mouth shut in GSCH so I don't offend anyone cause I do have a habit of using, perhaps excessive, adult language and content at home.  I blame my parents, who never restricted my speech at all, and work, where I am constantly deploying sickly sweet "make the customer happy" maneuvers.  After work I just wanna let loose and be myself if that makes sense. 

Izzy, you mention the Elders aren't going to have room for more guilds, does that mean we are we not going to have Tuatha alliance chat in ESO?  :(

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we're only allowed to be in 5 guilds. Tuatha will be active, but elders are in all our rooms, so don't have room for any Non GSCH guilds.

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Replied On: 03/26/2014 at 11:29 AM PDT

If we want to go according to the stories of the 3G guilds, wouldn't we all have to be in the same one?

Someone mentioned it above but now I can't find it.  Was there any luck finding an RP guild in the EP alliance?

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Replied On: 03/26/2014 at 11:40 AM PDT

Also depends if there is a facility for setting up player-owned chat channels, as there is in many other games.  If so, we could simply create & join an "RP" channel?  And if the facility doesn't already exist, it may be on the cards (especially if we suggest it to the devs) :)

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@Ezsme I know of a couple EP guilds but they are both specific for Dark Elves and their culture. One of these has a group I rp'd with in the past.  Right now their site is listed as Telvanni Acquisition but I think they are moving to a Nerevarine cult theme.  I could find out if they are looking for like Sellswords etc from other races.

Dumb question - what is the 3g Guild stories and aren't they more celtic?

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@Dok After browsing Reddit I can tell you the RPers are not very happy with Bethesda. They are concerned about people trolling if they are in a megaserver with all sorts of play styles. There was talk once of RP instances but Bethesda scrapped that.  I find it a bit disheartening because the Role Players I know from other realms wanted to come to this game for the RP Possibilities.

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I believe that players will be instanced according to their guilds and friends list, so while it limits interactions, it will keep many trolls at bay I guess...

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I think they took that instancing by likes thing out unfortunately :(

On the plus side, I've never had a problem ignoring RP trolls.

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Side note: wondering if we could see about sub-forums for the RP forum. We can have one for character bios, one for lore discussion, etc.

Personally, I've scrapped my original character and have been working on a new one (an Almer raised from infancy by Nord parents in Skyrim). It would be cool to get some feedback on her and be able to have other bios posted so we can plan and consolidate them.

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You used to be able to add your personal stories directly to your characters, I think it still works though I've not tried it.  I've got Mystri's story from Warhammer on here :)

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Yeah, I've scrapped my initial character as well.

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If we can post them to our character on the site, that would be awesome. I looked, but couldn't see how.

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Replied On: 03/29/2014 at 07:05 PM PDT

Since you can have a "large" party of 24 people there shouldn't be an issue with RP'ing in a party chat even in different cities.  

But as Fog stated - just don't use RP as an excuse to be rude, crude, racist, and allow foul language.   Point in fact we once had a member that used said excuse to make racist comments but would just explain he was RP'ing a racist who hates everyone but WASP's and swears like a drunken sailor. 

That doesn't fly - it was just an excuse so he wouldn't get kicked - it didn't work.

There is one thing to be a racist in the game and as a Altmer to hate Dummer - that is part of the game.  Being a cannibal in the game and eating your defeated opponents as a way to honor them isn't the same as talking about being a RL cannibal in guild or zone chat. 

RL and the game are separate - and as long as you do what Fog stated - keep RL drama out of your game RP you should be fine as long as you are in party chat and be sure that you don't invite kids *which we have in our guild - to your party.  Yes, this requires you to make the disclaimer when you seek members to RP in your group.  Stating in guild chat that "Looking for anyone that wants to RP to join group - must be 18 or older for this RP content" isn't that hard.

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I don't even know what a WASP is, I had to look it up on the interweb...  I think it would take a very specific game to RP that 'properly' and ESO certainly isn't that game. 

In any event, thank you Elders for taking the time to clear up your expectations.  I think I understand where you are coming from now, I was the head of an RP guild and one of our members would basically troll RP events claiming to be RPing a jerk character... In one particular instance we had a story telling event, and he was heckling the story tellers and in general disrupting the event.  It was frustrating because he was a member of our guild family so we of course wanted him to have freedom to RP as he wished, but others in the community did take it as trolling so it was a delicate line to balance.  Ultimately it boils down to respect, yes?  Respecting those you RP with, and those in the community who host RP events.  In our guilds particular case, if one finds story telling events boring, then do not attend and 'create' excitement when the rest of the folks attending simply want to listen to said stories. 

 

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@Rainingblood ( If we can post them to our character on the site, that would be awesome. I looked, but couldn't see how).

I believe Fog's still in the process of setting that up.  The ESO character profiles on your member page have a "Story" tab which seems to be placeholder right now, but I'm sure it won't be long.

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Mystriss - yes - it is all about respect.  Even in a RP setting if someone says they are uncomfortable with that - you need to respect it and move to a different "setting".

Everyone!!!! I encourage you to post your Bios under Izzy's thread.   Nothing can be too long (see mine) or too short.  It is a way for us to get a sense of who you are in the game.  And as I constantly do - you can change who you are in the game.   But I will say that having set a bio, I view myself differently in the game and I even have a better sense of who I am.  If you RP - having a bio is a must to gain this sense of self - for us and you!

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Let's make a plan for when and where to meet.  Perhaps we should have quick OOC chat in raidcall to get started. I will seeabout postinit as an event. 

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Just posted my very rough WIP bio in the other thread.  I'm itching to do some RP!

Also an FYI: via teso-rp, I'm in the NA cross-faction RP guild they created so RPers can communicate with one another, basically because there is no current way to filter out non-RP players.  I'm not sure if it would be ok to post it here, but if that would be a viable option for our family's RPers to have access to, then I can do invites.

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I guess they're putting in some form of custom chat channels, then we can use that :)  I'm too busy leveling to RP though :(  The downside of having leveling partners (who don't RP)

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Lol, I'd be happy with a leveling partner

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lol, yeah Myst.. I feel like if I stop to RP right now I'll get too far behind.. lol.  But then I think, well if I don't now, when will I feel like I'm not falling behind.

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Well both myself and my Breton (also named Bobernicus) both support this clause wholeheartedly.

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I will RP as I go - but I am leveling 2 characters at the same time - until I can really decide what one I like better - so RP is on the side.  I just got my Sorc to 15 and now it is time for my NB.   I might never decide - which is another issue - but it is a good one to have. :)

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I'd like to get some RP in, but limited playtime and multiple alts is making it a tough proposition. Once I get some more leveling in I'll put a bio together for my DK and track down some if our other RP members in game. 

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